#AboutMovie – Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalke 2019

I have next to no hope for this movie. The last one was so terrible I had a hard time believing it. Disney all but ruined Star Waes with their “it has to please everyone” attitude.

Their constant re-writes and shuffling of directors who were removed due to “creative differences” goes to show you how much better these three films could have been if they were left in the hands of artists and not amusement park owners trying to squeeze as much money from the Star Wars brand as possible. Fuck Disney.

Read a neat theory on Reddit that “The Last Jedi” followed by “Rise of Skywalker” could mean that Rey is not a Skywalker by blood, but that “Skywalker” is the title of the teachings from Luke and the name that will carry forward now that the “Jedi” are gone. So she’s not a Skywalker by blood, but the first “Skywalker”, the evolution of the more traditional “Jedi”.

I dont believe Ren was the only one saying let it all die…… Luke was saying the jedi are a failure…which was a preety amazing thing for him to say seeing as how he saved his own father from the dark side. Not much failiure in that. Then he blows off Rey mentioning that to him. Truly bizarre writing. Its no wonder Mark Hamill hated the movie.

They just want to bring us old folks back by showing Lando, Leia, and Lukes voice over. It will be interesting to see how much money it gets. Episode 8 was truly one of the strangest movies I’ve ever seen.

I am so tired of the cesspool that Star Wars “fandom” has become. Just take your stupid outrage and get the fuck out of here already.

You guys are like grandparents that go on hour-long “back in my day” rants every time they hear a modern song because all music is terrible now. So you don’t like Star Wars anymore, get the fuck on with your life.

The Jedi were categorically a failure, I don’t know how you could possibly argue otherwise. They failed, hard. Being successful in turning his father back from the dark side does not mean the Jedi Order did not fail.

It’s funny how people still think the movie was good when Hamill himself warned us about it and didnt like it. It makes no sense for someone who saved his father from evil, thinks that way of thinking was a failure.

Maybe if some other jedi made that argument it would make just a bit more sense? But Luke making that argument is just stupid. Then his reaction to Rey bringing up saving his father was inexplicable. But go on defend the shit movie.

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  1. I know what you mean, but it has to be said that watching the last Jedi with your brain switched on (and I also recognise a lot of people like to switch off the noggin when watching a flick, view it your way) absolutely killed the last movie for anyone who really enjoys world building and things that generally make sense without you having to do mental gymnastics and writing your own scenes to even remotely try and explain some of the things we witness.

    I am one such person, I know movies are make believe etc but I do still like rules and boundaries for characters, the struggle for them to get from beginning to end is where the story really gets told for me.

    Unfortunately these Disney movies are very much setup for the on screen spectacle and nothing else (which is also fine for those that like those things), they happily rewrite the lore of the OT just to setup a neat visual without any real explanation.

    I won’t go on because you know where I stand and probably have already dismissed me as “one of them” but, it has to be said, to tell a large group of people that they should just shut up and accept the standard of today’s story telling and not pressure the film industry for better, just because “you don’t want to listen to it” or “It was good for me” seems a little unfair and sort of like something the category of people you are describing might do to you.

    We all spent our money equally!

    1. I can’t say I noticed scenes that wouldn’t make sense or deny one another. I saw VIII once, gotta rewatch soon, but that’s what I remember. For example the scene with Leia in the space, it made perfect sense to me. Or why Luke denied the Jedi teachings and got bitter (not that I like that storyline, but I respect and understand why they chose it — nobody will take away the Legends books I love). I’m pretty sure there was a reason for Snoke’s premature demise too, even if it was what we wanted to see Vader do to Emperor in old trilogy (like he told Padmé he would).

  2. The force unleashed was ok. It was mediocre imo. My interest in the new movies hinged on what episode 8 turned out to be. And we know what happened there.

    What I don’t understand is why its so hard for this franchise and this trilogy to come up with good likable characters and character development. There are many good writers out there. Star wars never seems to get any of them tho.

    It could be so interesting and compelling given the right writers.

    1. They want to make it likable to everyone, old fans, new fans, all minorities… Simply they try to please everyone and that is impossible. Disney paid way too much for Lukas to take any risk but that turned out to be bad idea. Now they are just pumping nostalgia and marketing.

      Btw I don’t think Disney is butthurt with movie theaters attendance but sale of SW branded goods. I regularly see sw toys, clothes and other stuff on heavy sales.

      I find it unbelievable they failed to follow their own brilliant approach already used for Marvel- they should have start with movies like rogue, some fillers and only then launch ep. vii, once audience was attached to characters, simply rebuild universe and characters attachment. Instead they went for quick cash grab.

  3. Fuck them all haters :)) Teaser looks good. It’s different Star Wars than in the books and movies I love, but that doesn’t make it much worse for me. And Rey was the best decision in ages.

  4. Hamill may not like how it turned out to be, many fans don’t like that too, myself included, but that hardly makes it a bad movie on its own. It’s funny how we need to read here constantly how something is bad when clearly there’s many who enjoy and love it. Wanna spit on us, fans? Guess what, go frak yourself too with that attitude, maybe it’ll make you feel better.

    Jesus, what’s with all these people filled with hatred? Don’t like it don’t watch it, no need to hear for years the same bullshit and insults to those who like something.

  5. Ratings arent today what they been 10 years ago if you refer to imdb at least.. even Episode I was rated high in the early days..
    And no, I wont stop bitching about crap as long as it doesnt improve

  6. That could make a great spin-off series.
    I’m still behind on Rebels and the other lesser series.

    It would actually be great to see another RPG, in the spirit of KotOR.

    Hell, once the trilogy is complete, I’d love to see mods for the existing KotOR’s to rework the whole game in the spirit of this Skywalker teaching.
    Favorite part of the last episode was when Luke said “It’s time for the Jedi to end”.

    After watching so many movies and series, and playing the games, you really have to admit: There is no shadow if there is no light.
    Get rid of the Jedi Order and no one will feel like they need to reign superior over the universe because someone said ‘no’.
    It’ll just be usual threats around the universe.

    On that note, the future needs a lot more Mandalore.

  7. She seems a little over powered for my liking, by the end of the last movie she had demonstrated that there was no need to flee, she has the power to pretty much lift an ATAT and let gravity do the rest, levitate a bunch of rocks into the path of fighters etc etc. There is no one to stand in her way at this point without some plot twist coming in to either, rid her of her powers, or go the route of irresistible force meets immovable object.

    I guess that’s entertaining for some, but to me it just seems that, at this point, any writing of plot that doesn’t address this leaves me to simply keep asking “Well why did she not do xyz then?” “That makes no sense when she could simply squash them etc etc”.

    Couple that to the rest of the last movie where “That makes no sense” was the core phrase of my viewing experience, I have no choice but to conclude that the writing was in my opinion ‘not good’.

    It’s not about hating, it’s like uksquad said, I see a franchise I absolutely loved to bits growing up turn into a nonsensical farce with the only payoff being “pretty pictures”, this doesn’t make me hate, this make me sad. More so when it becomes clear that this is what the majority is calling for more of.

  8. It could go either way, and I know that the biggest detractors are the way they are because they love this series so much and they legitimately don’t like what they’ve gotten so far. If you didn’t like The Force Awakens at the very least, I doubt you’ll like this film. But in huge franchises like this, you don’t have to like everything, and you not liking something doesn’t make it “dead”. Read some of the books instead, maybe check out The Mandelorian, maybe just tune it out for 10-20 years and see what the next generation does with the franchise.

  9. Re: Rey’s sudden adeptness with The Force, I guess it would depend on what her lineage is. If, for example, she is a secret offspring of Skywalker then I am guessing her midi-chlorian count would be nearly as high as Anakin’s. I would assume if she is the offspring of, say, Palpatine* that it would be decently high as well. Either way a larger midi-chlorian count would predispose her to the ways of The Force.

    I would find it a little hard to believe if it turns out her parents were truly nobodies though who didn’t know the ways of The Force or otherwise had decent midi-chlorian counts. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

    * – Like if Palpatine somehow impregnated another female using The Force like how some theories over the decades suggest he may have caused Anakin’s conception, well maybe he caused Rey’s as well.

  10. majority can be wrong at times.. especially when it comes to lowest common denominator types of majorities..
    nowadays most people dont care and just move one instead of daring to write a bad review just to be called haters, get it?

    Also its know that media tends to write overly positive reviews to not be denied further review access.. money has become too important and thus destroys everything.

    I recall a new hope started as a b movie, mostly held up by passion and enthusiasm instead of aiming for the big bucks..

    Regarding the new installments, I cant even think of one thing I liked to be honest.. yet worst was the dumb dialogues, bad casting and literally try to completely recycle former storylines, bigger deathstars anyone? I had to stop watching fail awakens the moment solo appeared though, it was just too ridiculous with that comedy worm..

    And I wouldnt call myself a fan if my standards became so blatantly low I gobble up everything disney does to make money..

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